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1 hour ago, Budd Dwyer said:

Well, your observation is wrong cuz the girl got bigger than Manson himself with Westworld

Crazy? might be, just like any other 18 year old shithead teen

I'm pretty sure she wasn't dreamed about being beaten, raped and tortured though

If they can prove he raped and tortured her go to court. There’s no need to cancel him or talk about it anymore. But they want this circus. I think if she was crazy enough to be MM’s girlfriend then she’s probably crazy enough to join the cult of neo liberalism. 

 

That’s kind of what I’m saying, as Manson’s career ends she’s kind of getting revenge. At the time she’s not bigger and used him for something. She is now milking the association. 

 

I think it’s possible she went along with it but now she sees it differently. Once she gave him a knife and said stab me. They are just being goth nerds. 

 

Maybe it is a lot more of an ordinary situation and he did lose it on coke and do something crazy. 

 

I just don’t like the way she is dealing with it, it’s too self serving and career driven. There’s so many unknowns and sides to it, before anything is established he’s off his label and loses his means of making money. 

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Duff will be his first accuser 

At this point, I really don't give a shit about any of these rich famous Hollywood types. They are all narcistic manipulators in some way, they all play the game and very, very few of them have no ske

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32 minutes ago, Budd Dwyer said:

it's his worst album except the Villain one

Manson hasn't made a good album since the Pale Emperor and before that, since Holly Wood

 

After 2007 (when ERW comes to the picture lol) he basically makes total solo music, Chinese Democracies on a roll. Fat and shit

 

Shooter Jennings is a fucking nobody in the industry and not really a talented musician. He is basically a Gilby Clarke now

I just liked the production and the more kind of matured songwriting. I liked Pale Emporer as like a more rock n roll return to form. It can join the OG trilogy. Grotesque has its moments but it’s production is a little flat. 

 

I haven’t got into his pop phase. Seems more like self parody but he’s such a big celebrity the music was becoming secondary, maybe ERW was part of that more mainstream thing. If ERW was a fan first she must know what the score was. His whole image is being a satanic rapist, the most evil guy ever. He’s not in disguise or anything. All these goths are role playing. 

 

We Are Chaos is a good record but I’m probably reading some pandemic thing into it as well which he didn’t intend. The lyrics are more confessional but somehow it has this anthemic unifying feeling. 

 

It does make sense that MM would go out in disgrace though. If Weinstein is a threat then this Manson guy looks like pure evil. 

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49 minutes ago, wasted said:

If they can prove he raped and tortured her go to court. There’s no need to cancel him or talk about it anymore. But they want this circus. I think if she was crazy enough to be MM’s girlfriend then she’s probably crazy enough to join the cult of neo liberalism. 

 

That’s kind of what I’m saying, as Manson’s career ends she’s kind of getting revenge. At the time she’s not bigger and used him for something. She is now milking the association. 

 

I think it’s possible she went along with it but now she sees it differently. Once she gave him a knife and said stab me. They are just being goth nerds. 

 

Maybe it is a lot more of an ordinary situation and he did lose it on coke and do something crazy. 

 

I just don’t like the way she is dealing with it, it’s too self serving and career driven. There’s so many unknowns and sides to it, before anything is established he’s off his label and loses his means of making money. 

She already did

Btw it's hard to "prove" something which happened years ago, don't you think?  Apparently there are video tapes of aforementioned acts

(So if some serial rapist raped kids years ago, they need to prove it in court? it might be too late for that, but there are other ways )

Manson apparently used her beaten up face in a promo vid on his website way back in 2007. You only write and never read?

You clearly know jackshit about the case so stop talking

I don't think she needs "revenge", but the timing is interesting

 

Note these videos are years old

Also 9 month old reddit shit

http://www.instagram.com/mansonisabusive/

(a counter account exists though)

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The Esme Bianco accusation is pretty much rock solid and what convinced me to take this more seriously. Photographic evidence of them together the night of her birthday, when she states he was abusive to her. Not only does this establish a pattern that he is abusive to his girlfriends in general, but she was abused in a very similar way to what Evan's accusations are. Starved, locked in a room, not allowed to sleep. Beaten for the sake of "art" or to prove devotion/loyalty. ERW talks about similar instances of physical abuse in her testimony.

The patterns are there. The timeline is there. It all adds up. The statements he's made in interviews + other links:

-he's admitted to sick manipulation tactics--calling ERW repeatedly and cutting himself over 150 times when she left...she said in her testimony her abuser threatened to kill himself when she left

-he's admitted he fantasizes about smashing ERW's skull with a sledgehammer

-Running to the Edge of the World video, beating ERW look-alike to death (she said her abuser threatened to kill her)

-intro video to his website during that era: at first glance looks like clips from the RTTEOTW video... upon closer inspection it looks like ERW's actual face bloody and battered, getting her ass beat. Could have easily been viewed as a dark and twisted, typical Manson art project back then. Now, with her testimony? That's quite possibly a crime being committed.

  • his song lyrics from the ERW era forward...alone, meaningless. With all this context, WOW.

-he's joked about a "Bad Girl room" in multiple interviews. He lived in an apartment with studio that contained a lockable soundproof room. He is admitting things and putting them out in the open but due to his personality people just think he's joking or being edgy.

-I'm not an expert on NPD, but it seems like he found his ultimate host with Evan and reached peak depravity. Young, impressionable, infatuated with him. He seemed relatively "stable" with Dita, though she has alluded to things getting bad with him, as well as his alcohol and drug problem. But if you've read his autobio, he's always treated women like shit. Doesn't appear to be capable of real love or empathy.

But seriously. Check out that Instagram. The other women beyond ERW and Esme that have had their heads fucked with. Put the pieces together. It's him.

 

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23 hours ago, Towelie said:

 

I guess there's a vindictive part of me who loathes who he's become so much, the idea of him getting "cancelled" is quite gratifying. It's not as if we'd be mourning the loss of his career being over, because he does jackshit as it is. C'mon, wouldn't you love to see GNR become too tarnished to ever tour again? Or am I just really twisted?

 

Maybe I am. And to think only a matter of 5-6 years ago I used to wish only good things for Axl. 

 

Oh, I totally get where you'r coming from and whenever he sticks his fat neck up to tweet a picture of himself sucking Pedophile Biden's cock whist taking it up the arse from Commie Harris with a strapon i'll be wishing for his cancellation by the Woke mob again. 

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6 minutes ago, Budd Dwyer said:

She already did

Btw it's hard to "prove" something which happened years ago, don't you think?  Apparently there are video tapes of aforementioned acts

(So if some serial rapist raped kids years ago, they need to prove it in court? it might be too late for that, but there are other ways )

Manson apparently used her beaten up face in a promo vid on his website way back in 2007. You only write and never read?

You clearly know jackshit about the case so stop talking

I don't think she needs "revenge", but the timing is interesting

 

Note these videos are years old

Also 9 month old reddit shit

http://www.instagram.com/mansonisabusive/

(a counter account exists though)

 

I don’t know anything about the case. It’s none of my business.

 

I’m saying cancelling before a conviction or arrest doesn’t seem like a good precedent. It’s complicated like you say about things that happened years ago. I sense a lynch mob mentality. Following ideology blindly leads to bad things, the loss of empathy and humanity is worrying. 

 

Also, I see Manson as theatre or a pose. To me he’s just character in a movie. Like Alice Cooper. I don’t know how depraved or evil he is in real life. In interviews he seems intelligent and interested in art but also open about his drug use/lifestyle. 

 

So I’m not primed to treat him like a pedophile that needs to be lynched.   

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Everyone knows by now what I think of Manson. However, her timing is very opportunistic.

 

She could have easily come forward with these horror stories years ago. 

 

She could have easily destroyed his career earlier but somehow she chose to stay quiet and speak up when it was convenient for her......

 

Yeah, smells like #metoo............

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m saying cancelling before a conviction or arrest doesn’t seem like a good precedent

really nigga?

in the current political and social climate i'd say it IS the precedent itself. like it or not, it's reality now

 in the 50-60-70's maybe 80's, fucking kids, beating wifes etc. was a precedent for popstars

nobody batted an eyelash career wise

these are different times and everything is our business without the money

 

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I sense a lynch mob mentality. Following ideology blindly leads to bad things, the loss of empathy and humanity is worrying. 

let's not use Marilyn Manson as an example of compassion and empathy please. :rofl-lol:he already did worse things than the guy who originally wore the Manson name lol

yeah he is a poser, always has been

it's all fine until it gets real when it comes to abusing others than himself

he is a pretty intelligent dude, deep down inside he just compensate with all the theatrics, but that is exactly none of our biz

He was exactly what the music world needed in the 90's early 00's. His albums were concept albums until the 10's. Still, he became famous for material which was created by others. He treated his bandmates like shit. He was as much a brilliant frontman in his prime as Axl for example

He never fucked kids though

He was in the business for 30 years, worked hard at the start etc.. It was a pretty good run, but he isn't that interesting anymore

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4 minutes ago, Budd Dwyer said:

really nigga?

in the current political and social climate i'd say it IS the precedent itself. like it or not, it's reality now

 in the 50-60-70's maybe 80's, fucking kids, beating wifes etc. was a precedent for popstars

nobody batted an eyelash career wise

these are different times and everything is our business without the money

 

let's not use Marilyn Manson as an example of compassion and empathy please. :rofl-lol:he already did worse things than the guy who originally wore the Manson name lol

yeah he is a poser, always has been

it's all fine until it gets real when it comes to abusing others than himself

he is a pretty intelligent dude, deep down inside he just compensate with all the theatrics, but that is exactly none of our biz

He was exactly what the music world needed in the 90's early 00's. His albums were concept albums until the 10's. Still, he became famous for material which was createwd by others. He was as much a brilliant frontman in his prime as Axl for example

He never fucked kids though

After watching the vids I see what it’s all about. Changing the law so stuff isn’t inadmissible in court to stop the shame from stopping serial abusers. So I agree with that. And if using Manson to do that helps. 

 

From the looks of MM he is into to SnM and all that. That’s kind of who he hangs out with? So it’s probably all kind of true but also kind of out of the context of the SandM role play world he was in and maybe she was. So that’s what you have to prove in court. What ERW is doing is using it to change the law. The issue is consent in a court I guess. 

 

I just think this guilty before proven innocent isn’t the right way to do things. But in this case it works out for both sides. ERW gets to make changes that are needed and MM adds some authenticity to his doomed bondage love fantasy.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I'm always surprised that raping in Hollywood can be hidden for years. I remember only one case in my life, where someone got raped and the rapist got immediately busted. 

 

And shouldn't her therapist inform the police at some point? 

 

I understand that it's hard to go public and telling everyone that you got raped. I wouldnt do it publicly, but i would have called the police immediately. 

 

 

Axl had a lotta luck actually. He was into SM and abusive / aggressive as well, but he changed a lot after Steph left him. Aggressions were still there, but not sexually driven. 

 

Manson will have an Airbnb with Cosby. 

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26 minutes ago, wasted said:

After watching the vids I see what it’s all about. Changing the law so stuff isn’t inadmissible in court to stop the shame from stopping serial abusers. So I agree with that. And if using Manson to do that helps. 

 

From the looks of MM he is into to SnM and all that. That’s kind of who he hangs out with? So it’s probably all kind of true but also kind of out of the context of the SandM role play world he was in and maybe she was. So that’s what you have to prove in court. What ERW is doing is using it to change the law. The issue is consent in a court I guess. 

 

I just think this guilty before proven innocent isn’t the right way to do things. But in this case it works out for both sides. ERW gets to make changes that are needed and MM adds some authenticity to his doomed bondage love fantasy.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

Esme Bianco and ERW just have to accuse him both. Its actually pretty simple. If you find 2 or 3 women, MM is done. Btw, he already admitted the abuse as role play. So what more evidence do court need? 

 

http://www.whosdatedwho.com/dating/marilyn-manson

 

I also dont get why ERW didnt contact Stoya, Mcgowan, etc

 

On the other hand, what did these women expect from MM? 😄 Its like being with a fat woman and being surprised that she eats a lot during the day. The problem in this case might be Dita and Rose. Both didnt say a word, so other girls thought he's a gentleman. Dita had a huge career because of him. 

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11 minutes ago, creed said:

Esme Bianco and ERW just have to accuse him both. Its actually pretty simple. If you find 2 or 3 women, MM is done. Btw, he already admitted the abuse as role play. So what more evidence do court need? 

 

http://www.whosdatedwho.com/dating/marilyn-manson

 

I also dont get why ERW didnt contact Stoya, Mcgowan, etc

 

On the other hand, what did these women expect from MM? 😄 Its like being with a fat woman and being surprised that she eats a lot during the day. The problem in this case might be Dita and Rose. Both didnt say a word, so other girls thought he's a gentleman. Dita had a huge career because of him. 

Rose said he didn’t do anything like that with her. He was on a bunch stuff with Dita and she didn’t agree with his lifestyle. She’s like a burlesque dancer or something. Manson was sleeping on the couch when ERW came into the picture. 

 

Maybe Manson is done with music anyway. If he’s really into all this bondage malarkey he should probably get a job on Wall Street. 

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Yeah the whole thing is a dead end. There’s no way to know what happened or what they think or what angle is being played. It could easily be ERW was into all this role play but later she regrets her choices and metoo gives her the opportunity to punish MM and cleanse herself. At least now MM knows he’s on notice and will think twice about doing his performance art. 

 

I mean look how AOC does a smollet, ERW could be a CIA plant. 

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Its a mix of both with women. ERW was into SM and the thrill of having sex with a Monster, but was shocked afterwards, because it wasn't really her thing and hate herself that she did it. A lot of oornostars say the same thing after their career. They did gangbangs and in the end they say they were raped, are ashamed, worst decision ever, etc. 

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More people came forward, all waited years and obv higher profile victims to come forward

it's a psychological issue also, especially if you've been gaslighted, hence them "not going to the police"

also imagine going to the police that MM has raped, tortured and emotionally abused me..... all cops would just go "noice", noice"

Manson also put ot the BLM thing, that's also didn't save his ass

it's real

as for changing law, yeah, that would be great also

He could be a gentleman then an animal. ever heard of bipolar personality disorder ?

you people just not want to believe it, because MSM is telling us lies all the time, but in this particular case, Manson deserves it. All of it.

he is fucked rightfully so

http://www.vulture.com/2021/02/evan-rachel-wood-marilyn-manson-abuse-accusations.html (i know ist's a shit tabloid, but the insta links there)

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. It could easily be ERW was into all this role play but later she regrets her choices

There is roleplaying and there is "hey, i'm gonna punish you, fuck you after i've been locked you up for days in a room, after days of sleep deprivation, pumping you full with drugs (and cum)" constantly kept your belongings (including your wallet etc.) in my posession etc.

The list could go on an on

On role playings you have a secret keyword to "come back to reality": Manson shat on those keywords

you idiots should lay down the conservative pipe, Manson is guilty as charged

Guilty as OG as MJ and Epstein and all of these shitheads

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mean look how AOC does a smollet, ERW could be a CIA plant. 

okay, you are officialy a complete retard

Lay off the sauce for a bit and open your fucking eyes

Not everything is a big conspiracy

 

AOC been payed to lie, these shithead actresses and various women gaining NOTHING, not even big fame with this shit.

Stop being an asshole and once in a lifetime accept that the official narrative is right. Once in a blue moon i know, but it happens

Manson is a sadistic rapist. Fuck him

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ERW was into SM and the thrill of having sex with a Monster, but was shocked afterwards, because it wasn't really her thing and hate herself that she did it. A lot of oornostars say the same thing after their career. They did gangbangs and in the end they say they were raped, are ashamed, worst decision ever, etc. 

The mere fact that you compare pornstars to gullible shithead actresses  speaks for itself

Stick with Fat Axl's because even if you are trolling, you are doing it in a pathetic way

Haven't you considered the thought that even if you are a stupid and do something you shouldn't do and find yourself in a situation which is dead serious, you could actually claim you've been forced and or manipulated to do that?

 

What's next?

John Wayne Gacy's victims were CIA plants, because they sat in his car?

 

Fucking hell

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20 minutes ago, Budd Dwyer said:

The mere fact that you compare pornstars to gullible shithead actresses  speaks for itself

Stick with Fat Axl's because even if you are trolling, you are doing it in a pathetic way

Haven't you considered the thought that even if you are a stupid and do something you shouldn't do and find yourself in a situation which is dead serious, you could actually claim you've been forced and or manipulated to do that?

 

What's next?

John Wayne Gacy's victims were CIA plants, because they sat in his car?

 

Fucking hell

Haha. Jennifer Lawrence fucking with Weinstein is actually the same as the casting couch pornos. Hollywood is fake as fuck. Only the money you get is different in both industries. Face it. ERW played Lolita. Its a softporno about seduction and manipulation. Somehow she knew, what she could expect of Manson. 

 

 

This girl says that Weinstein locked the door. Instead of saying 'Mr. Weinstein, lets keep it professional and please unlock the door', she was flirting with and recording him. 

 

I'm sorry for girls who got raped by Cosby, but with guys like Weinstein, Manson or Sheen you knew exactly what you get. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Budd Dwyer said:

okay, you are officialy a complete retard

Lay off the sauce for a bit and open your fucking eyes

Not everything is a big conspiracy

 

AOC been payed to lie, these shithead actresses and various women gaining NOTHING, not even big fame with this shit.

Stop being an asshole and once in a lifetime accept that the official narrative is right. Once in a blue moon i know, but it happens

Manson is a sadistic rapist. Fuck him

I’m sitting on the fence as usual. Too liberal for my own good. We often want easy justice for the wrong we see in the world. I don’t have a well formulated opinion. How can we know? 

 

I wrote a few essay posts just going through it all. And I’ve been through all the evidence. Like I said cancelling Manson (such as it is, you’re cancelling an outcast victim, but yeah I was agreeing with you) is worth what she’s trying to get changed in the law. All I can concede is you need a trial to separate the roleplay from the abuse, how much ERW knew, wanted etc. l’d have to find out more about Mr Manson’s actual lifestyle and the image/music and how much ERW. That has nothing to do with how tragic her story is or to support any kind of abuse. I just think artists are particularly vulnerable to these kind of accusations and the Hollywood metoo movement reputation precedes itself. 

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