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2 hours ago, popcorn's snare said:

Dude got addicted to propofol.  High-end drug addict.  

No amount of propofol would compel me to marry a little boy or finger and lick his butthole

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Just finished watching it.

 

Never really believed that he actually molested children but after that I've changed my mind.

 

Horrific.

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I think I'm gonna skip this one.

 

MJ probably diddled kids. It's gross enough already. I don't need the play-by-play.

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7 minutes ago, EstrangedTWAT said:

It's pretty persuasive, isn't it?

 

I mean, yeah, the two guys could have sat and concocted the sexual abuse stories with the graphic details, and then decided to go on TV and say them.  But why??

 

On the other hand, you've got Jackson photographed for pretty much his entire adult life hanging out with one little boy after the other, dressed like him, holding fucking hands in public.  Dude was never seen with a woman, and Lisa Marie Presley doesn't count cause that was a sham marriage.

 

Let's say he never actually blew little boys and licked the anuses.  It's still documented that he had little boys sleep in the same bed as him, one after the other.  That's fucked up, even if no actual contact was made.   I mean, that's still really fucked up, isn't it??

I guess I always wanted to believe the "he never had a childhood/just a big kid/not sexual" line.

 

And I never really scrutinised it more than that, probably like a lot of other people.

 

But after watching this, and seeing their wives and siblings talk about it...I feel dirty.

 

The whole thing, MJ...It's a sad story.

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All I ever needed to hear was that he slept in the same bed with young boys. Anything beyond that was just icing on the pedo cake.

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8 hours ago, EstrangedTWAT said:

It's pretty persuasive, isn't it?

 

I mean, yeah, the two guys could have sat and concocted the sexual abuse stories with the graphic details, and then decided to go on TV and say them.  But why??

 

On the other hand, you've got Jackson photographed for pretty much his entire adult life hanging out with one little boy after the other, dressed like him, holding fucking hands in public.  Dude was never seen with a woman, and Lisa Marie Presley doesn't count cause that was a sham marriage.

 

Let's say he never actually blew little boys and licked the anuses.  It's still documented that he had little boys sleep in the same bed as him, one after the other.  That's fucked up, even if no actual contact was made.   I mean, that's still really fucked up, isn't it??

 

Money.

Why would the same guy lie back in 1993, and again under oath in 2005, and go out of his way to support Jackson at the criminal trial, when he could've actually been one of the offense's witnesses?

The other guy wanted to work for Michael Jackson long after the alleged abuse happened and was turned down.
 

There is no denying that him sleeping in beds with kids was wrong and very strange. I don't think he fucked them though.

The first '93 trial was motivated by Chandler's father seeking money. The second ended in an acquittal despite an exhaustive search of Jackson's home by the cops. I mean, if he fucked kids, don't you think there'd be some evidence of it? Say, incriminating or inappropriate pictures with the "victims"? Even something like just a picture of one of the variety of kids naked or in the tub or something? Or stuff like kiddie porn in his computer or on tape in his house? But when the cops searched his house after arresting him, none of that was found. The only thing found was old fashioned porno mags of both men and women.

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Miser, watch the doc and it will all make sense to you. These people who have been molested aren't making decisions with the same logic a normal person would use. 

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I think there’s an element of them not wanting MJ to go to jail even if he did molest them.

 

Should be a crime to sleep in a bed with a kid. And anyone enables that also goes down. 

 

 

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, Donald Trump said:

Miser, watch the doc and it will all make sense to you. These people who have been molested aren't making decisions with the same logic a normal person would use. 

 

Heres the thing though.

I had the (mis)fortune to grow up around very skilled liars. People who without any acting experience could tell the most insidious lies in the most persuasive fashion and be totally believed. Who werent motivated by something as titilating as money.

 

The fact that they waited until now, at the height of the metoo movement, is suspicious. That they waited until he was dead literally a decade and thus unable to refute anything is also suspicious. That they waited until a climate of mob justice wherein an accusation is the same as guilt, very much akin to the Salem Witch trials, is also dubious to me. These are men in my opinion being paid to perform on camera. Cashing in on a climate of moral outrage and on the very real traumas suffered by others at the hands of true abusers. 

 

MJ, due to his weird lifestyle, his bizarre changes in appearance, and his already sullied public image, is an easy target for this. It's believable because he made himself look deviant and unnatural. 

 

But for a man who was so into fucking kids, and who was so addled with drugs, where is there actual physical evidence? Why is there not one single kiddie porn-Like picture despite supposedly numerous victims? As a man who is alleged to have had a deep sexual interest in little boys, where was all the kiddie porn that people like that tend to hoard, record, or download, when the cops raided and searched his house back in 2005?

 

Why again is there not one single damning picture, audio tape, or film? 

 

We live in a climate where people are more sheep-like than ever, where mob justice and emotion fueled group think prevails over logic.

 

MJ had a lot of issues with boundaries. People say, "where there's smoke, there's fire." MJ provided the world with a lot of smoke by things he openly admitted - but I only see bloodsuckers out for cash. No fire.

 

Show me proof, and I'll believe it. Show me a performer on camera and I'll just admire the performance.

 

If I was being hundreds of thousands of dollars if not more, I could easily cry on camera and say this or that happened. 

 

And when all is said and done, even if he WAS guilty, this Orwellian urge to erase him from history is a bit much.

 

I don't see Polanski's films being pulled from public circulation or Led Zeppelin or Bowie or even GNR being pulled from the airwaves.

 

MJ is an easy target, and I believe he's a victim to some degree. A victim who did nothing to help his cause and only made himself look bad, but a victim nonetheless. The dead can't defend themselves.

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There was video of him walking around holding this kid's hand (and several other little boys, dressed just like Mini Me versions of himself, literally like they were on dates.  Holding hands and getting into and out of cars.).....audio of the phone messages he left saying "I love you and miss you my little one" as well as photographs, and even pics of the pages of fax messages Jackson left this kid, again stuff like "I love you."

 

Maybe in your world that's not enough evidence, and it obviously isn't enough to convict.   But it's enough for any normal person to look at and conclude that this guy is a fucking freak that doesn't belong anywhere near children.

 

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1 hour ago, EstrangedTWAT said:

There was video of him walking around holding this kid's hand (and several other little boys, dressed just like Mini Me versions of himself, literally like they were on dates.  Holding hands and getting into and out of cars.).....audio of the phone messages he left saying "I love you and miss you my little one" as well as photographs, and even pics of the pages of fax messages Jackson left this kid, again stuff like "I love you."

 

Maybe in your world that's not enough evidence, and it obviously isn't enough to convict.   But it's enough for any normal person to look at and conclude that this guy is a fucking freak that doesn't belong anywhere near children.

 

Yes, it's enough to conclude he had very weird boundary issues and an entire textbook full of mental problems. No arguments there.

 

But, all those things you point to are evidence only of a man with a serious issue with boundaries. And there is a mutual exclusivity between that and being an kid fucker.

 

Again, the stuff he openly admitted to - sharing a bed or a bedroom with kids - wildly inappropriate, even if he had been their father.

 

But the fact that the man openly admitted to sharing beds with kids and saw little wrong with it shows how disturbed he was. The court psychologists back in 05 said Michael had the same emotional growth as that of a young child.

 

It's a well known fact that he was severely abused and also incredibly isolated as a child from other children at a very young age. That would tend to cement someone's emotions at that point.

 

Maybe he really did have the mental state of a child. And unfortunately because of the way society reads into things, it's gotta mean he was fucking them.

 

I'm not attempting to rationalize or normalize his behavior but explain it psychologically. You can have stunted emotional growth and boundary issues without being a pedo.

 

I also got to blame the parents of these kids. I wouldn't allow a child of mine, if I had one, to hang around with a grown man. Hell, I myself, in this day and age, feel deeply uncomfortable around women due to #metoo. 

 

Michael made himself look bad. Had severe issues. Still doesn't mean he humped kids.

 

When I see a photo emerge of MJ and a kid nude together or MJ taking shots of nude kids, or video of horrible acts, or any sort of real proof, then I'll be on board.

 

Until then, this is just brainwashing propagdanda for cash and everyone's falling falling for it.

 

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Nobody loved Michael Jackson more than me as a kid. NO-BODY! Only that's blatantly not true anymore. After watching the documentary I can't help but feel a bit dirty when I think about running around the playground with my Beat It shirt on. Michael was probably parked outside elementary schools in tinted limousines across America jerking off to little kids in Beat It shirts back in the 1980's. 

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I think that when Michael started singing about "Healing the world" and becoming an agent for positive change, world peace, etc satatanic hollywood cult and media said, "we can't have this".  By that point in 1993, he was like the second coming of Jesus.  He was at the Superbowl halftime show surrounded by children.  So, of course, they went for the low hanging fruit, and found some parent  to accuse him of molesting their kids.  These poor kids  (men now) who have had to make repeated accusations, only to deny them repeatedly, are back again, but at who's request?  

 

 

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So the faggot libtards finally figured out the fact that he was a chomo and now in 2019 it's time to do something about it? These fucking retards are pathetic.

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1 hour ago, Damn_Smooth said:

So the faggot libtards finally figured out the fact that he was a chomo and now in 2019 it's time to do something about it? These fucking retards are pathetic.

Oh, come on. Don't be so hard on them. Before it was just that he slept in bed with young boys and held their hands in public, and that he probably diddled them. Now it's most likely that he diddled them. It's objectively night and day.

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8 hours ago, Donald Trump said:

Nobody loved Michael Jackson more than me as a kid. NO-BODY! Only that's blatantly not true anymore. After watching the documentary I can't help but feel a bit dirty when I think about running around the playground with my Beat It shirt on. Michael was probably parked outside elementary schools in tinted limousines across America jerking off to little kids in Beat It shirts back in the 1980's. 

 

This doc must have Mk Ultra levels of mind control shit in it. You have two little Actors crying for a paycheck and the wiring is programmed into your brain permanently.

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He always gave off creepy pedo vibes. This current outrage is fucking pathetic.

 

I'm sure everyone in Hollywood and music business knew he diddled children.

 

But no one did or said anything because they preferred to sweep it under the rug.

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Imagine you're a kid in the 90's and you meet MJ. What wouldnt you do for a big screen TV?

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I've been 50/50 on whether it was true. I haven't seen the doc but I think it's probably true now. I think the fact that he was uninvited to the White House in the mid 80s by Reagan because they had surveilled his phone conversations is most validating of all. 

 

I believe he abruptly stopped and conducted his life differently at a certain point which is why there are mixed conclusions.

 

Black or White was the BIGGEST song in the universe when I was a kid. I remember when it debuted live.

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5 hours ago, GUNNER said:

Imagine you're a kid in the 90's and you meet MJ. What wouldnt you do for a big screen TV?

Sucking a dick and taking a cock in the ass were definitely top two on my “things I wouldn’t do list.”

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3 hours ago, meatpuppet said:

I've been 50/50 on whether it was true. I haven't seen the doc but I think it's probably true now. I think the fact that he was uninvited to the White House in the mid 80s by Reagan because they had surveilled his phone conversations is most validating of all. 

 

I believe he abruptly stopped and conducted his life differently at a certain point which is why there are mixed conclusions.

 

Black or White was the BIGGEST song in the universe when I was a kid. I remember when it debuted live.


What are you talking about, he was at the White House with Reagan in May 1984

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