auad 758 Report post Posted November 7, 2018 On November 7, 1991, it was announced the departure of Izzy Stradlin from Guns N 'Roses. For many, the date marked the end of the band, although it never really finished. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GUNNER 6,009 Report post Posted November 7, 2018 Have a nice riddance... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magisme 15,170 Report post Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) Literally the end of GNR as a creative entity. Edited November 7, 2018 by magisme Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnBonhamRules 201 Report post Posted November 8, 2018 They were never the same after Izzy left. All the other AFD guys are creatively useless without him. The fact that Duff is treated as more of a commodity (by the general public at least) is ridiculous. A large percentage of casual rock fans need the Guantanamo-esque So Fine treatment to see how redundant Duff is. By the same token, Izzy's pretty fucking useless without GN'R. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bacardimayne 10,429 Report post Posted November 8, 2018 alternative thread title: shitgnr turns 27 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ragnar 1,684 Report post Posted November 8, 2018 "Izzy wrote 'em all horseshit" again . You bet your asses he did n`t. As much of a dick as Axl is, he is and always the main creative force in the band. Yeah, yeah, I know it must be cool and edgy to spin the same bullshit over and over again but there comes a time when it should be put to rest for good. They did n`t release anything not because Izzy was n`t there but because Axl had his head far too deep up his ass. Rant over........ Run along now ......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnBonhamRules 201 Report post Posted November 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Ragnar said: "Izzy wrote 'em all horseshit" again . You bet your asses he did n`t. Who in this thread alluded to "Izzy writing 'em all" before you did? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ragnar 1,684 Report post Posted November 8, 2018 You, for one, "creatively useless" is a paraphrase of " Izzy wrote'em all"..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damn_Smooth 6,861 Report post Posted November 8, 2018 It's rather obvious that it took all of them together to write great music because none of them has been able to do so on their own. Morons can sometimes accomplish great things when you put them together. Most of the time it has the complete opposite effect, but once in awhile true genius happens. So yes, Izzy leaving did ruin the creativity of the band. In no way does he deserve sole credit for the creativity of the band though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bacardimayne 10,429 Report post Posted November 8, 2018 gnr with izzy: albums, integrity gnr without izzy: fat, shit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Bonham 11,220 Report post Posted November 8, 2018 27 Years of shit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnBonhamRules 201 Report post Posted November 8, 2018 5 hours ago, Ragnar said: You, for one, "creatively useless" is a paraphrase of " Izzy wrote'em all"..... Ah no, it's not. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume English isn't your first language. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GUNNER 6,009 Report post Posted November 8, 2018 1 hour ago, bacardimayne said: gnr with adler/sorum: albums, integrity gnr without adler/sorum: fat, shit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnBonhamRules 201 Report post Posted November 8, 2018 (edited) Third world language deficiencies aside, I also propose the wild theory that Ragnar is a faggot. Edited November 8, 2018 by holymntn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GUNNER 6,009 Report post Posted November 8, 2018 31 minutes ago, holymntn said: Third world language deficiencies aside, I also propose the wild theory that Ragnar is a faggot. There are no fags among the gipsy community. Apart from the "funny" ethnic accent, his english looks perfect to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ragnar 1,684 Report post Posted November 8, 2018 1 hour ago, holymntn said: Ah no, it's not. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume English isn't your first language. English not being my first language has nothing to do with your utter retardation you inbred cuntrag . 1 hour ago, holymntn said: Third world language deficiencies aside, I also propose the wild theory that Ragnar is a faggot. Your girlfriend strongly disagrees with you bitch boy. Now, fuck off back to your basement and carry on masturbating on Izzy`s hq photos . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ragnar 1,684 Report post Posted November 8, 2018 1 hour ago, GUNNER said: There are no fags among the gipsy community. Apart from the "funny" ethnic accent, his english looks perfect to me. Who the fuck let this monkey leave his cage ? Stick a banana in your cunt hole and swing off a tree. "Accent, accent, accent" this dumbshit is too dense to know meaning of words he`s tossing around . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GUNNER 6,009 Report post Posted November 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Ragnar said: Who the fuck let this monkey leave his cage ? Stick a banana in your cunt hole and swing off a tree. "Accent, accent, accent" this dumbshit is too dense to know meaning of words he`s tossing around . I only said nice things about you and that's how you react... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EstrangedTWAT 2,551 Report post Posted November 8, 2018 I'm declaring it here first: I still liked GNR after Izzy left. When the new edgelord thing is complaining about Izzy, I'll be in on the ground floor. SUCK ON THAT! (See? Axl was/remains a lyrical genius.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ragnar 1,684 Report post Posted November 8, 2018 23 minutes ago, GUNNER said: I only said nice things about you and that's how you react... Shut the fuck up you annoying imbecile. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magisme 15,170 Report post Posted November 8, 2018 29 minutes ago, EstrangedTWAT said: I'm declaring it here first: I still liked GNR after Izzy left. I think all of us did, but that doesn't mean they weren't creatively dead. *this is not another way of saying "wrote em all" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bacardimayne 10,429 Report post Posted November 8, 2018 chilly out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popcorn's snare 3,618 Report post Posted November 8, 2018 There are people on this board who talk mad shit about Izzy. Oh he can't play, he can't remember the parts, he can't do this or that, overrated, not that good. They're all morons. He was the anchor from which Axl and Slash tethered, musically. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
auad 758 Report post Posted November 8, 2018 8 minutes ago, bring back izzy said: There are people on this board who talk mad shit about Izzy. Oh he can't play, he can't remember the parts, he can't do this or that, overrated, not that good. They're all morons. He was the anchor from which Axl and Slash tethered, musically. I agree with you. I would add only that as a composer he is lacking, but as a guitarist he is not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barry 366 Report post Posted November 8, 2018 The bigger question, who wrote Axl's lyrics for him? Not that he was up there with the greatest, but some of them had their moments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites