Dr. Strangelove 5,195 Report post Posted July 12 6 hours ago, John Bonham said: 🤔 is space fake? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackie moon 2,115 Report post Posted July 18 why can't every week be Apollo 50 week? This has been the best week of my life.. so much moon content. PBS Chasing the Moon was fucking incredible, 6 hours, hose me down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackie moon 2,115 Report post Posted July 18 On 4/8/2018 at 11:26 AM, meatpuppet said: There's still junk you can view from the landing from telescopes. they went to the fucking moon. in 1969. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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MIA 1,168 Report post Posted October 14 On 4/8/2018 at 7:17 AM, GUNNER said: Maybe their enemies didnt have the technology to prove it was a lie. The Russians had a probe there monitoring Apollo 11 and its transmissions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damn_Smooth 8,382 Report post Posted October 14 On 7/12/2019 at 6:32 PM, Dr. Strangelove said: 🤔 is space fake? Thought the earth was bigger than the moon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MIA 1,168 Report post Posted October 15 It is.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damn_Smooth 8,382 Report post Posted October 15 3 minutes ago, MIA said: It is.... Then why have I seen moons bigger than the earth in the picture Bacardi posted? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MIA 1,168 Report post Posted October 15 Not sure. We got a photographer here? Probably something to do with perception, angles, horizon,etc. Regardless.... Orbital mechanics and physics answers this for us. A large body cannot orbit a smaller one. It's literally impossible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maynard 4,911 Report post Posted October 15 GUNNER god bless his soul. the guy truly hated the US. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damn_Smooth 8,382 Report post Posted October 15 32 minutes ago, MIA said: Not sure. We got a photographer here? Probably something to do with perception, angles, horizon,etc. Regardless.... Orbital mechanics and physics answers this for us. A large body cannot orbit a smaller one. It's literally impossible. It's smaller in every available picture of the Earth from the Moon. http://www.google.com/search?q=earth+from+moon&client=ms-android-verizon&sxsrf=ACYBGNTWrXo8iyCTUUbd27YCFsI3cmhxOQ:1571100622987&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiyk6j0hZ3lAhVeJzQIHZC9AbwQ_AUIEigB&biw=1100&bih=1851 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MIA 1,168 Report post Posted October 15 You're not really suggesting the Moon is bigger than the Earth and we are orbiting it? I know there's all sorts of odd theories and conspiracies about the Earth- Moon system but this one I've never heard. It's violating Newton's Law, orbital mechanics, and every law of physics imaginable. It would be like saying Bill Cosby shits Jell-O pudding pops. It's highly unlikely....and would anyone wager money on it? That first pic I posted should remove any shred of doubt. It was taken from Mars. Even in that pic, it's askew due to scale, angle,etc. The space between the Moon and Earth is so vast that you can fit every planet of the Solar system between them with room to spare. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MIA 1,168 Report post Posted October 15 As far as the Moon landings go I believe that we went but I do have one minor gripe left on the subject.... How was it so easy to leave the Moon and it always be perfect every single time? Getting there is the easy part. It launched from the richest country in the world with unlimited resources and so much care put into it that a flake of gnat shit within a 10 mile radius of the launch pad would cause them to scrub the launch. Coming back should've been extremely difficult if not impossible, especially the first time. Yeah I know...low gravity, no air, atmosphere,etc... It's still mind-blowing. The future manned missions to the Moon and Mars are going to involve creating fuel in those extreme environments for the return trips even with a 50 year leap in tech. I find that interesting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MIA 1,168 Report post Posted October 15 I mean.....come on..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damn_Smooth 8,382 Report post Posted October 15 7 hours ago, MIA said: You're not really suggesting the Moon is bigger than the Earth and we are orbiting it? I know there's all sorts of odd theories and conspiracies about the Earth- Moon system but this one I've never heard. It's violating Newton's Law, orbital mechanics, and every law of physics imaginable. It would be like saying Bill Cosby shits Jell-O pudding pops. It's highly unlikely....and would anyone wager money on it? That first pic I posted should remove any shred of doubt. It was taken from Mars. Even in that pic, it's askew due to scale, angle,etc. The space between the Moon and Earth is so vast that you can fit every planet of the Solar system between them with room to spare. That's not what I'm suggesting at all. I'm suggesting the photos are doctored. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damn_Smooth 8,382 Report post Posted October 15 I mean, if they're going to fake astronauts onboard the ISS, why believe them about anything? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maynard 4,911 Report post Posted October 15 Here's where I stand. There are two sides, one has proof which some dim "questionable", The other side, from my experience, is pure conspiracy theory. So even if the proof we have can be considered questionable by some (not by me), it is still much more believable than what these lunatics say on these long-ass youtube videos. I have some friends who are deniers and I keep asking them why the russians didn't fake their own landing as well and they are not able to answer it. The conspiracy side is much weaker than the scientists side and they are much more sensitive to the hard questions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damn_Smooth 8,382 Report post Posted October 15 I don't care whether we went or not in the least. I just want to know why NASA is unquestionably doctoring photos and using actors on green screens for astronauts. Not too much to ask. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damn_Smooth 8,382 Report post Posted October 15 I guess when it comes to believing my own eyes or what the proven liars in government tell me, I'll go with my eyes. Sad more people don't have that confidence in themselves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maynard 4,911 Report post Posted October 15 I think the thing with the moon stuff is that tons of other sources (not associated with any government) confirm the landing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landings Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MIA 1,168 Report post Posted October 15 It has nothing to do with confidence. It has more to do with understanding high school math, science, the various programs and political maneuvers leading up to Apollo, and belief in American ingenuity. Is it really that surprising that we went? In the 50s while the rest of the world was still in rebuild mode, the US is flying then classified planes to the literal edge of space. The combined genius of American and Nazi scientists were putting the project together. The Nazi side of the project(mainly Von Braun) was actually furious that we had set our sights too low. After a couple moon jaunts, he had a plan for a manned mission to Mars using modified Saturn V rockets. If Von Braun is handed a blank check instead of Nixon canceling Apollo in favor of the Shuttle, we go to Mars in 1980-85. We now know it most likely would've been a one way trip, but we would have made it. Most of today's tech wouldn't be possible without the Space age. It blows my fucking mind that some people actually believe we can't even get to LEO. Hell....a modified A-12/SR-71 might have pulled off an attempt and that's using 50s technology. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MIA 1,168 Report post Posted October 15 30 minutes ago, maynard said: I think the thing with the moon stuff is that tons of other sources (not associated with any government) confirm the landing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landings Yeah and the most important one is the Soviets actually there monitoring Apollo's every move. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maynard 4,911 Report post Posted October 15 Just now, MIA said: Yeah and the most important one is the Soviets actually there monitoring Apollo's every move. Exactly. When even America's biggest enemy just accepts it did happen and never ever attempted to do a fake moon video themselves, it speaks volumes... As for believing my own eyes or having confidence... it has a limit. When it turns me into a tinfoil hat looney, it's time to eat the humble pie and do some research. And by research I don't mean 2 hours of conspiracy theory on Youtube. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MIA 1,168 Report post Posted October 15 They almost beat us. They actually deserve a ton of credit as well. Both sides were learning from their adversaries successes and mistakes. Soviets were monitoring the landing as they knew it could go tits up and then they'd know what not to do. As they say....the rest is history. It went off without a hitch and they abandoned their own plans.... which was a mistake. Just a handful more landings in some more interesting spots would've discovered vast deposits of ice....and that's when moon bases would've been built. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damn_Smooth 8,382 Report post Posted October 15 24 minutes ago, MIA said: It has nothing to do with confidence. It has more to do with understanding high school math, science, the various programs and political maneuvers leading up to Apollo, and belief in American ingenuity. Is it really that surprising that we went? In the 50s while the rest of the world was still in rebuild mode, the US is flying then classified planes to the literal edge of space. The combined genius of American and Nazi scientists were putting the project together. The Nazi side of the project(mainly Von Braun) was actually furious that we had set our sights too low. After a couple moon jaunts, he had a plan for a manned mission to Mars using modified Saturn V rockets. If Von Braun is handed a blank check instead of Nixon canceling Apollo in favor of the Shuttle, we go to Mars in 1980-85. We now know it most likely would've been a one way trip, but we would have made it. Most of today's tech wouldn't be possible without the Space age. It blows my fucking mind that some people actually believe we can't even get to LEO. Hell....a modified A-12/SR-71 might have pulled off an attempt and that's using 50s technology. Still clinging to me saying the moon landing didn't happen, huh? Maybe you should learn to read before babbling. You could spare yourself a wall of text and you wouldn't have to be so wrong. High school science doesn't explain why NASA uses green screens and doctors photos. If you want to reply to me about what I'm talking about, feel free. If not, feel free to shut the hell up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
