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  1. There really is one period where most of the songs of Taylor period that is so lauded were written: 1969-1970. Most of Sticky Fingers and Exile were written in 1969 and early 1970. Brown Sugar for example was first played live in Dec 1969 but not released until 1971 with Sticky Fingers. Same goes for Loving Cup which was recorded and played live in 1969 but not released until Exile, or Shine A Light, recorded in 1969 and then re-recorded in 1972. It was akin to the UYI records - where most of the best material was recorded in a short span a while before the record itself was. I mean people talk about the Taylor era but in terms of record performance: 1) Taylor is only on the majority of ONE record: Goat's Head Soup, where he plays more than Keith and wrote more than Keith did. For example, Sticky Fingers: he doesn't play on Brown Sugar at all (he plays on demos, but the actual song is Keith alone). He doesn't play on You Gotta Move or Sister Morphine (the latter is Ry Cooder). On Exile he is mainly on bass (because the sessions were done in a drug filled environment and Bill Wyman was sober, so he didn't attend most of them) and Keith cut most of his parts guitar wise (for example, on Rock's Off, you can literally only hear two seconds of Taylor playing at the very end of the song; the rest was wiped) 2) Most of the songs written during the Taylor era were written before he joined, and songs he helped write, he was denied for (much the same as Brian)
  2. To be fair, in December 1968 he was a mess emotionally. He had been arrested in May on drug charges and was basically relentlessly treated in the press and honestly thought a long prison sentence had awaited him. He had a rather quick and sad decline between late May and December of 1968. He also felt he was being pushed out and bullied by Mick and Keith. Keith did the same thing to Mick Taylor, which is why he left (Keith would erase Mick Taylor's parts in the studio and also belittle Taylor's playing). They kept Ronnie Wood on salary as an employee for almost 20 years. It took Bill Wyman quitting the band in 1993 for him to be made a full partner and that was only because Bill himself requested they make him a full partner and to fill a void in the legal partnership. There is a lot of shitty things to the Stones' story. Ask Ry Cooder, who was a major session guitarist in the late 60s who played with them in early 1969. He claims to this day that Keith Richards stole quite a few riffs from him. They sounded very raw in 1967.
  3. There's demos on youtube of Duff's earliest punk bands from like 80, 81 or so.
  4. Check out some of the songs I posted above. Beggar's Banquet is a full album done with him and is considered one of their best: He's on harmonica and acoustic guitar here. Their first country joke song like they'd do on Sticky Fingers and Exile.
  5. So the following songs all suck: Little Red Rooster Tell Me Carol I'm Free Time Is On My Side (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction Heart of Stone Under My Thumb Get Off My Cloud 19th Nervous Breakdown Have You Seen Your Mother Baby (Standing in the Shadows)? Lady Jane Mother's Little Helper Paint it Black I Am Waiting Doncha Bother Me Yesterday's Paper Ruby Tuesday She's A Rainbow 2000 Light Years From Home Citadel No Expectations Dear Doctor Parachute Woman Jumpin' Jack Flash Street Fighting Man All suck? Most of those are blues songs. Their hippie period only lasted for one year in 1967.
  6. Their hippie period really only spared one album (Satanic Majesties) and singles released in one year.
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    Izzy's stuff is bland though. it's basically him doing an imitation of Keith Richard's solo work
  8. What are some music "holy grails" that have been lost to time you'd kill to see? For me: Rolling Stones NME performance, May 1968. It is the first performance of Jumpin' Jack Flash and the last performance of the band before Brian was busted and began not functioning properly: Apparently according to contemporary reviews they were in top form and stole the show (there were about a dozen other artists playing the show). No sound film or audio has emerged.
  9. They're saying it'll be in periods where his father was in jail. Yes but I would argue that given Tony's psyche, that bond to Dickie was the LAST thing protecting Chris in his subconscious. Him destroying his hero's image is what fully broke the camel's back. Arguably it started with the whole Adriana situation, but Dickie was the final straw.
  10. Extras The movie was filming the other day apparently in my neighborhood but I had no idea 😕
  11. Shooting has started. Some looks
  12. Am curious on you guys thoughts on this performance. It's pretty historic in some ways: -It is the last performance of the original lineup of the Rolling Stones (Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Brian Jones, Bill Wyman, Charlie Watts) -The only captured performance of Tony Iommi as a member of Jethro Tull -The only performance of a supergroup called The Dirty Mac which featured John Lennon vocals, Eric Clapton on guitar, Keith Richards on bass, and Mitch Mitchell on drums -A truly amazing performance by The Who Brian Jones on slide guitar in one of the last major songs he took part in as a Stone (his last song would be on Let it Bleed on You Got the Silver in 1969). On Beggars he is all over the record, but this is probably his last shining accomplishment besides his parts on Street Fightin' Man.
  13. Well Chase said the therapy was designed to be sort of a Greek Chorus, a look inside Tony's head for us. It humanizes him. Without the therapy it's just a mafia show. Also, tell me what you think of this little theory: The therapy kept him alive and out of jail: 1) In Season 1 after Jackie dies a war is going to happen between Uncle Junior and Tony for the top spot. Melfi unknowingly gives Tony the idea of making Junior the fake boss by telling him elders need the "illusion of control." 2) Through working with Melfi he's able to get in better touch with his subconscious. This allows him to have the dreams which tell him Pussy is a rat (keeping him from jail) and the Test Dream, which tells him he's gonna need to kill Tony B to survive. There's other things but off the top of my head - basically, him going to therapy balanced him in a way that he could function. After Melfi dumps him he acts weird. Even after being told by Harris that NY is gonna try to have him killed, he doesn't have the family bunker down immediately. He goes out to Artie's fucking restaurant for fuck's sake with Bobby and Sil after learning the news - not the best idea if you know NY already has a contract out on you. He doesn't stop to consider that he can't get away with murdering a Boss of one of the Five Families without the Commission's consent, or that Butch might be setting him up, or that Butch's truce might be phony to get Tony to lower his guard. His whole expression when he goes into Holstein's just says to me that somehow, on some level, he knew he'd be killed there:
  14. Yes he does. Apparently this movie is gonna have a scene in Holstein's, the diner where Tony was killed in. Tony does seem to have anxiety about going in there.
  15. Wouldnt go that far....i just think its a cool late 90s sounding bit
  16. Thing is he's not the focus. Dickie Moltisanti is. Rather than give the audience exactly what they want and do a George Lucas "let's fill in every single blank in Tony's life" prequel, they're telling the tale of one of his mentors and father figures who he grew up idolizing. Throughout the show, part of the reason Tony coddles Chris and lets him get away with so much was because Dickie, as Tony says was "my me to him." When Melfi says, "a mentor?" he says "Yeah but more than that. The kind of guy you could look up to, a friend. And the hope is that you pass that shit down, the respect, and the love." He's genuinely devastated when Chris shatters his lifelong illusion of Dickie by saying he "wasn't much more than a fucking junkie." He kills Chris the next episode. That's how strong the illusion of this big tough guy Dickie was for Tony. He told Chris his father single handedly hunted down a whole New England crew, and he was killed bringing home TV trays when Chris was an infant by a cop on the take supposedly over a jail feud - he took some guy's eye out for hurting a prison friend. Dickie, Johnny Boy, and Paulie were all like heroes to Tony and Dickie was basically like a surrogate father since his own wasn't around. That's what this is going to show.
  17. It literally sounds like something you'd hear on a theoretical UYI 3 they way they're playing it. The faster tempo, the actual drums (it sounds like a drum machine on the album), Slash's leads, Duff's bass...It actually sounds like a missing link of a GN'R song or something. The studio cut is terrible I have to be the only one though who actually liked Pitman's little synth bridge in the demo version.
  18. All the actors they ever got to play young Tony did well. This is a flashback set around the same time the movie will be so probably how Tony will look And yes Gandolfini was actually slim like that and had long hair a thing that age
  19. Im not sure what the title is, but I will say that calling just calling it Newark could be setting it up to be maybe an anthology series of some sort
  20. To them, it is rape. They believe anything that makes them uncomfortable is akin to rape. I've been talking to a girl - 22 - gorgeous. Catcalling to her is sexual assault.
  21. I don't think it's possible. Maybe if social media didn't exist....But a whole generation has been indoctrinated. It's too late.
  22. Anything that offends or makes a woman feel uncomfortable is sexual assault now, especially if it's a white guy
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