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  1. 12 hours ago, bran said:

    Jon: She's not her father...

    Dany did exactly what her father wanted to do... Fucking retard.

     

    What do you think of the theory that your namesake pulled a Littlefinger and used his ability to see the future to mastermind all this and ascend to the throne?

    Bran

    -Tells Jon about his parentage, knowing Jon is honorabe and will tell Sansa and Arya

    -He knows telling Sansa will result in wanting Jon on the Throne since she dislikes her

    -As such, he knows Jon telling Sansa will mean she tells other people who will in turn tell other people, resulting both in the news travelling and Dany feeling betrayed

    -Given he can see the future, he also knows Dany will burn KL, resulting in her needing to die/people turning against her and does nothing to stop or avert this

    -In turn, he knows given how close Jon and Dany are that Jon will be the one to kill her, making him also ineligible for the Throne and "he doesn wan it", knocking two contenders off the board.
    -With no other strong candidates, and with Bran as the closest male relative to Jon who was heir to the throne, he also knows he could be the likeliest candidate for it 

    -Implies very strongly at the end that he knew all along what would happen, saying "Why do you think I'm here?" in Kings Landing IE he knew he was coming there to be named King
    -Acts like a vegetable for 2 seasons and suddenly comes back to life at the end and even smiles and is interactive after being named King

    It's almost as if he took from Little Finger's playbook, sat on the sidelines as the most unlikely person imaginable to do anything, let all of his rivals do the dirty work of finishing each other off for him, clearing a path for him to become King, even if that means 1 million people need to die to get there.


  2. 20 hours ago, EstrangedTWAT said:

    Well, the Dothraki are basically a metaphor for Muslims.   Woke HBO isn't about to show Muslims in a poor light these days; that would be crimethink,

     

    Besides, weren't ALL the Dothraki killed in the first charge against the White Walkers?   Eh.  Who cares.


    They did kinda show them in a bad light in the penultimate episode, raping, murdering and pillaging an entire city.


  3. 3 hours ago, magisme said:

    Maybe that was their intention, but my take was different. The only people on the show who ever had their shit together were Ned Stark and Tywin Lannister, white male heads of household who maintained order dispassionately and with unwavering hands. Unfortunately for Tywin, he had shit kids. Unfortunately for Ned, he left the North out of a sense of duty. By the end of the show, it's a bunch of young nutjobs and freaks who think they have their fingers on the pulse of cosmic justice. The remaining Boomers are losers, no doubt, but that's mostly because they keep sacrificing themselves to the whims of the the retarded new guard.

     

    Uncle should have unsheathed his sword and beheaded Sansa when she told him to sit down. The show is really about the dangers of uppity women and diversity. :lol:


    I would say Bobby B also had his shit together, enough so that the Kingdom functioned in spite of his whoring and drinking. He also reckonized Dany was a threat and wanted her dead in Season 1, which frankly could've avoided all of this. Dany's only real contribution in Westeros were having the Unsullied and Dothraki there for the Battle of Winterfell. I imagine if Bobby B had lived and remained on the Throne, a united seven kingdoms could've dealt with the Walkers alone.

    I would also say Davos had his shit together and of the remaining old guard should've been King. Either him or the Hound, who I wish didn't have to die.


  4. 5 minutes ago, Alex Trebek said:

    now i want tony to have a distant cousin on the show who spends all of his time analyzing dion from dion and the belmonts' hairline


    I'm passed all that stupid shit. I spent a long time mentally remaining 16. Only hairline I even give a shit about now is mine. I had shoulder length hair last year, cut it very short. I got rid of most of my t-shirts and dress in polos and slacks nowadays with a leather jacket I've had since I was 16 or 17 years old, a leather blazer. I don't wear jeans anymore. The last few months I've really recovered myself as I was always supposed to be.


  5. My great grandpa was a made guy who was highly respected in the neighborhood. He did 5 years in Sing Sing prison on an arson bid while keeping silent. Was personal friends of Meyer Lansky. Owned a race track. We still have a bronze statue he had made of a prize horse he treasured. I'll put a pic up if anyone is interested, it's a gorgeous horse. He died at 40 years old. Used to have my grandpa help him fix varsity track and football games, my grandpa would tell him tips on which players had a bum leg, which guy was slower, etc. My grandpa could easily have followed in his footsteps but he watched how his mother struggled while his dad was in jail, when the whole thing was that these guys are supposed to help each other out; after that his attitude was 'fuck them.' 


  6. 5 minutes ago, Alex Trebek said:

    wait what

    based as fuck if true


    He kept a lion in his basement to scare debtors, and he and his brothers Larry and Albert took on their Boss in a civil war and it's believed that Joey was one of the shooters of Albert Anastasia (Boss of the Gambinos before Carlo Gambino - Carlo masterminded the hit as Underboss and then assigned 4 shooters) and that he also had Joe Colombo shot on Carlo Gambino's orders. His brother Albert is still alive and active in LCN. Larry was killed not long after Joey was if I remember right. Joey, like Tony Soprano, was shot to death in a restaurant by surprise while out with his loved ones (on his birthday, actually) in retaliation for the hit on Colombo.


  7. 6 minutes ago, wasted said:

    I think people want the same actors and same mix of comedy violence and innovative stories per episode. The overall story arch of the families isn’t that important. So that is where prequels fall down sometimes. The spend time on the story but in the end no Adrianna. No Chrissy on heroin. Like I said before Sopranos worked because Tony was in therapy. The audience had a get out clause for rooting for the killer thug. 

     

    I think you enjoyed the show on a deeper level than me. Maybe I enjoyed it on a more voyeuristic level. There was also this thing where although they were all criminal murders they had very similar lives to us. You could still relate to their problems. A family drama like you said. 

     

    I enjoyed it cause I could relate to all the characters. When I watch the show it's like going to a family reunion. Both the way the guys are, how they talk, how they carry themselves, and the dysfunction in Tony's family (his mom, I mean), this is what I grew up with. When I watch it, it's like going back to when I was a kid, seeing my uncles and my grandpa and whatnot. I come from a family that kisses on the cheeks when greeting and my grandparents had plastic on the furniture as late as the 90s. Parties were full of Frank, Dean, and Doo Wop. So for me, The Sopranos is the closest thing to seeing "my people" on screen that I can get. My grandpa's voice and accent sounded exactly like John Gotti. My dad and I say "rad-e-ator" like Phil Leotardo does. We say "youse." These are my kinda people.


  8. 6 minutes ago, Alex Trebek said:

    when the show comes out i will

    until then i'll judge based on the fact that he looks like a vegan tony soprano

    Looks can be deceiving. Look at a (distant) cousin of mine, Joe "Crazy Joe" Gallo. Pretty boy, yet one of the more vicious Mafiosos in the 60s and 70s who kept a lion in his basement and took on a Boss
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    Looked like a fucking member of a boy band.


  9. 2 minutes ago, Alex Trebek said:

    and all of those vulnerable parts of tony are balanced out by the more public half of his personality and his rugged exterior, neither of which i'm convinced michael will be able to pull off

    hence soy-prano


    How about see the kid in action and how he actually acts first before you judge, eh?


  10. 3 minutes ago, Alex Trebek said:

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    "Whack Big Pussy? Y-you guys can do that without me, right?"


    You mean, the same guy who later in life had tears in his eyes as he was about to pull the trigger, right? Who was so torn apart by Puss being a rat that he buried it in his subconscious for over a year, and still had the fucking guy visit him in dreams later on?


  11. 11 minutes ago, Alex Trebek said:

    skinny arms, face as smooth as a baby's ass, woman haircut

    inb4 "but alex, skinny arms, smooth babyfaces and woman haircuts were all the rage in the 70s!"

    tony was a fucking man - i can't picture this kid doing/saying some of the shit tony did in the show

     

    that said i'm sure this show will live or die based on his performance, not his testosterone levels

     

    I do agree he should be bulkier physically, but I don't really see that smooth of a face and I'm sorry to ruin your in b4 but 9 out of 10 guys in the 70s had long hair. If you didn't you were a dork. You say you can't imagine this kid doing or saying things Tony did in the show - you mean when he was a hardened, 40+ year old murderer, as opposed to being a 14/15 year old kid? Tony, as established within the show, wasn't headed for the gangster life when he was younger. He was an athlete who went to college for a semester and a half. Most future gangsters, at least, back then, didn't go to college. The show goes out of its way to show that, no, Tony Soprano isn't a "fucking man", not really. Not the kind of man his father would 100% respect. This is a guy who goes to a shrink twice a week, takes anxiety pills and anti-depressants, suffers panic attacks, and literally cries over a dead horse. He considers giving an openly gay underling a pass. Now compare Tony's character in the show to one of the other characters like Phil Leotardo.


  12. 2 hours ago, wasted said:

    I think prequels fail because they aren’t the same as the orginal. I want more Sopranos but I’ll get something that messes with the original or something else. So you have to be a super fan to really get into it. You have to oscillate between the Chrissy story and this prequel. That’s too hard for most people. 

     

    It’s often meant to connect like that Aliens movie? You have to sort of be telepathic to get it. I’m a dumbass I don’t even get the Terminator story. I have no idea what was happening in Salvation. Terminator is meant to be a killing machine chasing a chick. Once you lose that dynamic and you’re doing a road movie it gets diluted. 

     

    Anyways I just hope they keep the component parts of Sopranos. Whatever mixture that was. The big mistake is always getting lost in the story. To me that was just something to hang the comedy violence and bling on. Pine Barrens was barely relevant to the story but it’s the best episode. 

     

    By want more Sopranos, what do you mean exactly? Because you're getting a lot of the original characters who were in the show - just younger. You're also getting new faces, like we got every season. I think there's enough to it that could hook mob movie fans beyond just Sopranos fans. The Chrissy story and this prequel are the same movie....?

    What's the dynamic in the Sopranos, really? A guy in the Mafia struggling with two families. One blood, the other bloody.

    The mixture that made The Sopranos good was the balance of Family vs. family. Tony's mafia family versus his blood family, and him having to juggle both needs and wants in a changing period of time (1990s-early 00s). We'll see what the crisis is in this story but I can think of no period of greater change than the 60s and 70s and being in the Mafia in that era, being Italian in that era, was pretty challenging. Besides the fact that the Mafia then was both at its height and at its bloodiest, and the nuclear family was starting to disintegrate. There's a lot of cultural things that could be played upon here, as the Sopranos wove the cultural themes of American decay in the late 90s and mid 00s.


  13. 4 minutes ago, JeanGenie said:

    I think lookwise its great. But I have trouble to see him pull off Tony Soprano like his father did. If it will be good will depend on the story. 


    Well if you think about this way, he doesn't really have to so much: Tony Soprano isn't TONY SOPRANO yet. He's a 14 or 15 year kid who hasn't murdered anyone, hasn't been inducted into the Mafia, hasn't done anything to make him that different from most teenagers other than happen to be born into a criminal family. He might have the same underlying traits as Tony: depression, the brooding, etc. But he might also be very different since in the series it's said Tony was a light hearted jokester and class clown as a teen. There's a wide canvass really because the character is Tony but not, at the same time, if that makes sense. As such it doesn't require the same level of intensity as James Gandolfini brought to the role. There's not all the baggage to the character that James' version had. 


  14. 14 minutes ago, wasted said:

    Yeah I sort of parlay Goodfellas into Sopranos. I’m not sure they even wear tracksuits in Goodfellas. Maybe in Casino they do. The best thing about Sopranos was them getting all the new things like flat screens and stupid blenders. Paulie watching the History channel like it’s the luxury life. 

     

    I’m sort of worried they are going to ruin Sopranos’ immaculate record with this movie. Is Tony going to get raped or something? No prequel has ever not sucked and tried too hard. Hopefully Chase is depressed enough to pull it off. 

     

    Why didn’t they just make a tv series of it? A movie nobody is going to see it. Who wants to see a tv movie in a I-Max theatre. I guess it will be on HBO soon though. 

     

    No track suits in Goodfellas. Also the track suit thing is to show in part how the Mob has 'declined' and to specifically show how the Jersey Mob is more a bunch of wannabes or trashy guys compared to New York. Go rewatch The Sopranos and look at how Tony and his crew dresses, then compare it to the guys we see from New York. You never see Johnny Sack in a track suit. 

     

    The movie is gonna be centered around Dickie Moltisanti, Chris' dad, so I think it'll avoid the prequel trap of showing every moment of the original protagonists' life; Tony will be a side character in this, it's not like Star Wars where we're gonna see every fart of his existence. The main character is someone else, and it's an era that's not about him. He's a nobody. A 14 or 15 year old kid whose dad happens to be a big shot in the Mafia, but little else. Prequels fail when they try to do fan service and show every important moment of a character's life and they fail by doing it in ways fans didn't imagine it being like. Since this film is probably gonna go no further than him being 14 or 15, and he's a side character, you're not gonna see heavily talked about moments from his past or him rising up in the Mafia. It'll be isolated moments in 1974 or 1975 that we had no idea about. That works, because then it exists as its own separate thing.

    The only prequels I can think of that 'failed' were Star Wars and The Hobbit, and both of those suffer from the same symptoms; it doesn't mean every prequel is doomed to failure. Didn't they do several X-Men prequels that were really good?

    When The Sopranos ended, Chase was too burned out by the whole experience to dive back into that world. He always wanted to make The Sopranos into a movie, in fact, if the Pilot episode hadn't gotten picked up by any network, he was gonna shoot like an hour more footage and make it into a movie.

    To me it doesn't matter how much it makes or how popular it is as long as it's good.
     


  15. 2 hours ago, bran said:

    It feels like there is 3 seasons missing before this season. Nothing makes any sense.


    HBO and the executives wanted more seasons, and actually wanted this season to be 13 episodes. The showrunners are eager to get the show done so they can work on Star Wars so they rushed the ending.


  16. 3 hours ago, wasted said:

    Maybe it’s the 60s I’m seeing. Goodfellas seemed late 70s-80s and we were seeing it late 80s? This is seeing the 60s in 2020. It looks a bit old timey?

     

    The pix I've been posting are from the 70s portion of the film. 60s fashion (think Mad Men) has aged a lot better than the 70s. Also as far as Goodfellas some of the looks of the 70s were purposely avoided because there was a backlash still, but go watch the film again, look at Henry's house, it's dated as fuck for example.


  17. 10 hours ago, wasted said:

    The 70s thing makes me think it’s going to be unwatchable. It’s not going to have the Goodfellas thing. 


    Goodfellas takes place mostly in the 1970s. The bulk of it, anyway. It's set from 1955 to 1980.

    Also, Many Saints of Newark is gonna be set both in 1967, and in the mid 1970s.

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