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Axl is Counter-Suing Azoff

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Axl Rose claims music giant Irving Azoff concocted a diabolical plot to destroy Guns N' Roses ... TMZ has learned.

Rose just filed a countersuit against Azoff -- his former manager -- claiming Azoff tried to strong-arm Rose into a reunion tour with the original members of GNR. When Rose nixed the idea on the heels of the Chinese Democracy tour last year, Azoff did everything he could to screw Axl ... so he claims.

Among other things, Rose claims Azoff tried "devising and implementing a secret plan to set up Rose and the band for failure so that Rose would have no choice but to reunite with the original Guns N' Roses' members."

Rose believes Azoff was so vicious he even used Axl's childhood name -- something that carries heavy emotional baggage -- when he filed the initial lawsuit for commissions. Rose says the name William Bailey "carries significant emotional damage from Rose's childhood" and that Azoff knew it because of numerous personal and confidential conversations.

Rose is countersuing for $5 mil minimum.

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Axl Rose claims music giant Irving Azoff concocted a diabolical plot to destroy Guns N' Roses ... TMZ has learned.

:lol:

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"a secret plan to set up Rose and the band for failure"

This is the EXACT wording they used to attack Madison over the tee shirt incident. They also used this re: Madison & the 2006 NY shows.

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This is the EXACT wording they used to attack Madison over the tee shirt incident. They also used this re: Madison & the 2006 NY shows.

I think it's obvious that Madison was in on this "diabolical plan." She also tied Axl to a chair for six months and forced him not to promote Chinese Democracy in any way shape or form, and then proceded to slowly eat all the reels of the Better video, and burned all the tapes that contained songs for the 'next album'.

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Axl Rose says his former manager tried to implement a scheme to force him to reunite with the original Guns N' Roses band members and, as part of the plot, failed to properly promote the "Chinese Democracy" album, lied about a prospective Van Halen super tour and mishandled the band's tour dates.

The claims are part of a bombshell countersuit filed yesterday against Irving Azoff's Front Line Management. In March, Azoff sued Rose, claiming the rocker violated an oral agreement to pay 15% of earnings, or nearly $2 million, from a lucrative concert tour.

Not since the G'N'R song "Get in the Ring" has Rose struck back at a foe so forcefully, alleging antitrust concerns about Front Line's parent company, Ticketmaster, to drive home a major claim that his former manager is up to no good in the music business.

Azoff is CEO, director and majority shareholder of Front Line, whose roster of artists include the Eagles, Neil Diamond, Jimmy Buffett, Christina Aguilera and John Mayer. In 2008, Front Line was acquired by Ticketmaster.

Rose claims that through Azoff's control of the "trifecta" of artist management, concert and touring promotion, and ticket sales, Azoff has been able to gain wide influence and power in the music industry. Azoff allegedly decides what artists he wants to promote through favorable touring deals and uses his power to punish artists and harm their careers if they don't follow his orders.

When informed of the myriad allegations in the countersuit, Azoff's lawyer Howard King quipped to us: "He didn't accuse Irving of being on the grassy knoll in Dallas on November 22, 1963?"

The countersuit invokes the U.S. Justice Department's recent antitrust lawsuit that sought to stop a proposed merger between Ticketmaster and Live Nation over concerns about the new entity having too much control over artists and venues. Afterwards, Ticketmaster entered into a consent decree with government regulators to allow the merger to continue under certain operating provisions.

Axl's counter-complaint says that Azoff is violating the consent decree by coercing and bullying artists to do what he wants.

What Azoff wanted, the rocker says, was the reunion of Guns N' Roses. To execute this, he would sabotage Rose and his new band so that Rose would have no option but to reunite.

According to the filing, "Upon realizing that he couldn't bully Rose and accomplish his scheme, Azoff resigned and abandoned Guns N' Roses on the eve of a major tour, filing suit for commissions he didn't earn and had no right to receive."

Further, Axl says the botched tour cost him money in production startup and rehearsal expenses. Claiming breach of fiduciary duty, constructive fraud and breach of contract, the singer wants at least $5 million in damages.

The cross-complaint was filed by Skip Miller and Sasha Frid at L.A.'s Miller Barondess.

http://thresq.hollywoodreporter.com/2010/05/guns-n-roses-reunion-.html

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Well, I think it's safe to assume that the recent "business" the band was taking care of in NY had nothing to do with getting the next album out, and more to do with another myriad of lawsuits that the fans could give less than a shit about and will probably waste more time the band doesnt have. Awesome.

How about a press release announcing the next album or, you know, something that will make the fans happy?

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It's too bad that Axl fucked-over Merck. If ever there was a guy who "got" Axl and New Guns, it was Merck Mercuriadis.

Merck loved the new band and never would have pushed for a reunion.

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It's too bad that Axl fucked-over Merck. If ever there was a guy who "got" Axl and New Guns, it was Merck Mercuriadis.

Merck loved the new band and never would have pushed for a reunion.

Exactly, but then who would he have to blame for the album *not* coming out in 2006, Fernando?

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Well, if there's no album or tour, the next most Axl-like thing to do is involve himself a lawsuit.

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Well, if there's no album or tour, the next most Axl-like thing to do is involve himself a lawsuit.

:lol:

That does seem to be the ongoing trend, with none of the above occurring at the same time unfortunatly.

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:lol:

That does seem to be the ongoing trend, with none of the above occurring at the same time unfortunatly.

The responses to this on the other forums have actually irritated me with their sheer stupidity.

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So ... once this all gets sorted-out, we'll see the "Better" video?

Of course we will, probably about a week or so after.

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December 11, 2008

"There are no plans of a reunion, nor have there been any discussions of a reunion, with former GUNS N' ROSES band members. In the future, we hope that if media have any questions concerning GN'R, they'd at least check their facts before running inaccurate stories for their own benefit."

- Irving Azoff

Yeah, he was definitely out to destroy Axl's band alright. :rolleyes:

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December 11, 2008

"There are no plans of a reunion, nor have there been any discussions of a reunion, with former GUNS N' ROSES band members. In the future, we hope that if media have any questions concerning GN'R, they'd at least check their facts before running inaccurate stories for their own benefit."

- Irving Azoff

Yeah, he was definitely out to destroy Axl's band alright. :rolleyes:

Really pisses me off...And that time and effort and years of waiting and waiting into chinese democracy...and this selfish prick just wants to make money and fuck over axl for his own benefit.

I hope Axl knocks this person right the fuck out :fuckyou: AZOFF

WHAT A BASTARD THAT AZOFF IS. :rolleyes:

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Guess this kinda explains the way in which tour dates trickle out rather than flood out like what is considered the norm.

I'm guessing there won't be a US tour.

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We have to convince Axl that the best way to fuck-over Irv is to leak the rest of the material straight to the fans.

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We have to convince Axl that the best way to fuck-over Irv is to leak the rest of the material straight to the fans.

You know what, you're absolutely right. It's literally his only choice. :D

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We have to convince Axl that the best way to fuck-over Irv is to leak the rest of the material straight to the fans.

I would love that B)

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We have to convince Axl that the best way to fuck-over Irv is to leak the rest of the material straight to the fans.

I'll have a word with him about it. In all seriousness, there's a fair chance Irving has been a prick. We all know Axl's supposedly hard to work with. As always, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and all, but what pisses me off are people's responses to this. We probably wouldn't seen the album on Rock Band, or the album at all if it wasn't for Azoff, regardless of what's he's done now.

People jump on this as an excuse for everything that hasn't happened with the band in the last two years.

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