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Making F@ckin' Videos: Axl's descent into megalomania, self indulgence, and insanity

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Have any of you guys watched the "Making F@ckin' Videos" series lately?

Me and EstrangedTwat have been recently, and they really are...something. You can basically witness not only Axl's descent into megalomania and his increasing lack of touch with reality, but also the death of everything that made GN'R stand out from their peers. From the ass-kissing hangers on elevated to being almost on par with the band (Josh Richtman) to the utter seriousness with which Axl, Del and his crew take these videos and themselves, to all of Axl's cronies laughing at what EstrangedTwat called Axl's "dad jokes", along with seeing the rest of the band begrudgingly going along for the ride and becoming increasingly drunk and it becoming increasingly harder for them not to just burst out laughing at the ridiculousness of it all....You can really see the death of the band and the evolution of Axl from the crazy, but cool guy of the late 80s to the guy we have now. With each video, Axl's head is wedged a little farther up his own ass, and you can tell he's really coming to believe he is some unsung musical genius and a voice of his generation. With each video, things get all the more Spinal Tap-esque, and Axl truly begins to go off the deep end. He delivers painfully pathetic and utterly serious monologues about Dylan, a child who wasn't his, who he only knew for a year and a half.

It becomes increasingly pathetic and creepy as Axl goes on and on about Dylan:

 

Axl, dead serious: "I don't know of anyone who's made a video like this. You know, showing their own emotional destruction, and their process of transcending that. That's another thing about this video. It's communication with Dylan. It's someone I'm not allowed to communicate with, and someone who feels that I abandoned him. And I didn't. You know, I was told one thing and showed another, and uh, Dylan is....Robbed of certain things that he likes, and I am also, and just trying to transcend that and deal with that and still making a video of what's really going on and trying to show it. It was really wild when we filmed that scene cause in this room there's a shelf. Ever since Dylan moved out of the house, I've always pictured myself sitting on that shelf, just looking at his room....When it came time to film that scene, I ended up sitting on that shelf, and I ended up just laying down and having the most peaceful sleep, Because I really needed to be there in his room and like, it was a really strange way for me to spend time with Dylan in my own mind, that I really needed to do for myself and hadn't taken the time or found the time or right place, and it happened on film." 

And then, you have at the same time, Axl making GN'R more and more into a joke. Axl's pathetic obsession with Kurt Cobain, besides ripping apart the band, was just like a sad teenager chasing around a not interested girl:

 

Kurt: "We're not your typical Guns N' Roses type of band that has absolutely nothing to say,"

 

Kurt: "I can't think of a damn thing [I like about Guns N' Roses' music]. I can't even waste my time on that band, because they're so obviously pathetic and untalented. I used to think that everything in the mainstream pop world was crap, but now that some underground bands have been signed with majors, I take Guns N' Roses as more of an offense. I have to look into it more: They're really talentless people, and they write crap music, and they're the most popular rock band on the earth right now. I can't believe it."

 

Axl:  "I just think that they're having a lot of problems with who they are and who they want to be and trying to hold onto it at the same time. At least Kurt is. I'd like to be as supportive as I can, but I don't know how much he will allow support. To write a song like "Smells Like Teen Spirit" making fun of your songwriting and then have it used as an anthem has got to be a complete mindfuck. The man definitely has a mountain to rise above. I think there is a part of him that has the strength and desire to do it. I just don't know if he's able to get in touch with it. I had an advance copy of that record and it became my favorite. I would put it on repeatedly. Nirvana has helped me do my job. I think that the world has gotten really bored, really fed up and really pent up with frustration, and that comes through in Nirvana. I think a lot of people were aware of that feeling and he happened to find the song that touched it and was able to let that feeling out in people. And I'd like to do anything I can to support it. That's why we want them to play with us."

 

Despite Kurt's trash talk, Axl was determined to bring Nirvana on tour with GN'R. "Guns N' Roses was about to do this massive stadium tour with Metallica, and they wanted us to open," Dave Grohl would later recall. "So Axl had been calling Kurt nonstop. One day we're walking through an airport and Kurt says, 'Fuck. Axl Rose won't stop calling me.'"


Axl: "I'd like to hear Nirvana do "Welcome To The Jungle." That's what I'd like to hear. I'd like to hear Nirvana do "Jungle" their way, however that is. And maybe Nine Inch Nails do anything, do "Estranged."

 

This is a guy who, when Kurt killed himself, had to be talked to for hours on the phone so he wouldn't hurt himself. Axl was 32 at the time and Kurt hated him, but he had to be talked out of self-harm:

 

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He then further embarrassed himself and the band by relating how, through regression therapy, he was able to relive memories as far back as conception:

"My earliest conscious memory was of a feeling that I'd been here before and that I had a toy gun in my hand. I knew it was a toy gun, and I didn't know how I knew. That was my first memory. But I've done regression therapy all the way back, just about to the point of conception. I kind of know what was going on then...My mom's pregnancy wasn't a welcome thing. My mom got a lot of problems out of it, and I was aware of those problems. That would tend to make you real fucking insecure about how the world felt about your ass. My real father was a pretty fucked-up individual. I didn't care too much for him when I was born. I didn't like the way he treated my mother. I didn't like the way he treated me before I was born. So when I came out, I was just wishing the motherfucker was dead."

At the same time, he was going all Hippie-Dippie about how alternative medicine could cure AIDs:

"We can't sit idly and hope someone will change things and hope things will be alright. There are alternative forms of medicine that are having high success rates in treating AIDS victims. There's things like vibrational medicine, oxygen-ozone therapy, there's homeopathic medicines, there are Chinese medicines and different forms of vitamins. The government is denying the public this information. That's because the government, the FDA and the pharmaceutical companies are making billions of dollars off of people dying. The FDA invests money in companies they've supposed to be regulating - that makes no sense. Over the last 50 years there have been different cures for different illnesses that have been kept from us. Freddie Mercury's death made me want to fight for people to have the right to know about these alternative treatments. Everyone has got a God-given right to health, and it's being denied by power-hungry, greedy people who want control."

Oxygen-Ozone therapy? The fuck is that? Going outside for a walk?

Meanwhile, the band is hemmeroging money from outlandish theme parties every single night, and making huge videos that no one wanted and that the band didn't need. The band is now a 12 piece Vegas act, and even magazines are starting to raise eyebrows about how un-rock-n-roll it looks. Axl is painfully oblivious:


MUSICIAN: When we go see Guns N' Roses now we're seeing three original members and three hired sidemen. You're one man away from a Steely Dan situation. 
AXL: Slash and I are avid Steely Dan fans.

So yeah, watch Making F&cking Videos again. It's quite enlightening. 

 

Remember, folks, it's all about Axl. Everyone is out ta get him:

Another song, called ''Oklahoma'' - heard tonight only as an instrumental - was inspired by a court date with ex-wife Erin Everly. ''I was sitting in my litigation with my ex-wife, and it was the day after the bombing,'' Rose remembers with a wince. ''We had a break, and I'm sitting with my attorneys with a sort of smile on my face, more like a nervous thing - it was like, 'Forgive me, people, I'm having trouble taking this seriously.' It's just ironic that we're sitting there and this person is spewing all kinds of things and 168 people just got killed. And this person I'm sitting there with, she don't care. Obliterating me is their goal.''

 

Obliterating him is their goal.

 


 

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I had the the Don't Cry and Estranged ones on VHS back in the day. I've never seen the November Rain one. The ones I did see were pretty cringe worthy, and that's coming from someone who was a hardcore GNR fan at the time. Axl hangs out with some real tools. Del James? LOL!

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8 hours ago, Miser said:

Despite Kurt's trash talk, Axl was determined to bring Nirvana on tour with GN'R. "Guns N' Roses was about to do this massive stadium tour with Metallica, and they wanted us to open," Dave Grohl would later recall. "So Axl had been calling Kurt nonstop. One day we're walking through an airport and Kurt says, 'Fuck. Axl Rose won't stop calling me.'"


Axl: "I'd like to hear Nirvana do "Welcome To The Jungle." That's what I'd like to hear. I'd like to hear Nirvana do "Jungle" their way, however that is. And maybe Nine Inch Nails do anything, do "Estranged."

 

 

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8 hours ago, Miser said:

Another song, called ''Oklahoma'' - heard tonight only as an instrumental - was inspired by a court date with ex-wife Erin Everly. ''I was sitting in my litigation with my ex-wife, and it was the day after the bombing,'' Rose remembers with a wince. ''We had a break, and I'm sitting with my attorneys with a sort of smile on my face, more like a nervous thing - it was like, 'Forgive me, people, I'm having trouble taking this seriously.' It's just ironic that we're sitting there and this person is spewing all kinds of things and 168 people just got killed. And this person I'm sitting there with, she don't care. Obliterating me is their goal.''

This perfectly sums up Axl. He attempts to virtue signal his fake concern about a colossal tragedy and then he makes it entirely about himself and how no one else is as thoughtful as he is. Everyone else is just Out Ta Get Axl.

 

Oh, the humanity! If only more people had deep brainthoughts about Chinese stew and Falun Gong!

 

Self-involved, self-pitying twat.

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It took a few attempts but I got through all three Making Of videos a few weeks back.

 

If there is any doubt as to why there hasn't been any more footage released from that time period, especially the long rumored "UYI Tour Documentary"...just watch this utter cringefest and there's your answer.

 

If you haven't watched them in a while, I highly recommend it.  And don't just skip ahead to Estranged for the good stuff....watch the WHOLE thing to appreciate the process of the devolution.  The Josh Richman stuff is just precious.  What a fucking tool.   And then he's absent in 2 and 3, not even mentioned, as if he never existed.

 

Slash and Duff and Gilby are just utterly miserable throughout the entire process.   Slash is like "Oh you want me to float down the street/play in the desert/emerge from the water like Jesus?  Whatever, I don't even give a fuck anymore."

 

 

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I like Nirvana but Kurt wasnt doing gnr justice here. Guns still was a good band. And Duff, Slash and Gilby are/were musicians with integrity. The New thing always has to seperate itself from the old one. Having said that I agree with everything said about the misunderstood 12 min piano ballad man.

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Nirvana is one of my favorite bands but Kurt was an even bigger douche than Axl is, and his cultural influence was absolutely corrosive. I don't think it would be difficult to draw a straight line from Kurt Cobain to antifa.

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38 minutes ago, magisme said:

Nirvana is one of my favorite bands but Kurt was an even bigger douche than Axl is, and his cultural influence was absolutely corrosive. I don't think it would be difficult to draw a straight line from Kurt Cobain to antifa.

I also am a big fan of Nirvana. Watching Montage of Heck made me realize what a fuck up Kurt was. 

Towards the end where he's with (the murderer) Courtney and his daughter, he's blazed out of his skull. It's sad

 

however, I will maintain that Nirvana Unplugged is one of my favourite albums of all time. It's incredible

 

 

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I have never seen these videos. I remember when they came out, I was kinda sick of GnR. They weren't the same band that put out Lies and AFD. 

 

But it I would like to see them. EBay and Amazon only have VHS copies for sale. Anyone have any sources?

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Have any of you guys watched the "Making F@ckin' Videos" series lately?

Nope

 

I have never seen these videos. I remember when they came out, I was kinda sick of GnR. They weren't the same band that put out Lies and AFD. 

 

But it I would like to see them. EBay and Amazon only have VHS copies for sale. Anyone have any sources?

Yeah, youtube

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1 hour ago, GnRLiars said:

I have never seen these videos. I remember when they came out, I was kinda sick of GnR. They weren't the same band that put out Lies and AFD. 

 

But it I would like to see them. EBay and Amazon only have VHS copies for sale. Anyone have any sources?

 

 

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Was this from the same era where he was paying Yoda fifty grand a pop for seaweed wrap exorcisms? THE POWER OF PLANKTON COMPELS YOU!

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1 hour ago, Donald Trump said:

Was this from the same era where he was paying Yoda fifty grand a pop for seaweed wrap exorcisms? THE POWER OF PLANKTON COMPELS YOU!


Yes.

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Izzy has the peace of mind knowing he didn't take part in these embarrassing music videos.

 

Everyone else should be ashamed of themselves.

 

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Those videos are great and are part of what made GnR a huge, epic, worldwide band.

 

They should have done many more.

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12 minutes ago, GUNNER said:

They should have done many more.

True. But they didn't have more songs.

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19 minutes ago, meatpuppet said:

True. But they didn't have more songs.


They did. The songs Slash, Duff, Izzy, Gilby etc were writing were just not industrial enough for Axl.

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What kind of asshole has the best band in the world, doing the best american rock and wants to turn it in some shit noisy industrial rock?

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2 hours ago, GUNNER said:

What kind of asshole has the best band in the world, doing the best american rock and wants to turn it in some shit noisy industrial rock?

The fattest, shittest asshole.

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9 hours ago, GUNNER said:

What kind of asshole has the best band in the world, doing the best american rock and wants to turn it in some shit noisy industrial rock?


An asshole who has his head so far up his own ass he can't see daylight, who believes in sniffing vibes and that his ex-wife was an Indian who butchered their children in a past life?

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No.

 

Axl is a smart guy. It never happened. He never wanted to turn GnR into a industrial rock band.

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On 03/18/2017 at 10:36 AM, Miser said:


They did. The songs Slash, Duff, Izzy, Gilby etc were writing were just not industrial enough for Axl.

EVery day I thank the lord Jesus almighty that there are no shit Gilby songs on gnr albums

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I wish there were more Pawnshop Guitars type of songs in the GNR discography. But sure, Paul Tobias is much better. lol.

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